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	<title>Comments on: Sad State of Affair in Java &amp; .NET blog server software</title>
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		<title>By: Flora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever a chance get Roller working with Oracle and then document  the procedures to get Roller working under WebLogic and Oracle?

I tested Pebble on Weblogic 8.1 but get exceptions on the first page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever a chance get Roller working with Oracle and then document  the procedures to get Roller working under WebLogic and Oracle?</p>
<p>I tested Pebble on Weblogic 8.1 but get exceptions on the first page.</p>
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		<title>By: james governor</title>
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		<dc:creator>james governor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so are you heavily overlicensed? i can&#039;t really understand why you want to drive workloads to Oracle and WebLogic, not exactly the cheapest software on the block, when they already have MySQL and, what, Tomcat, skills, given that your original intention was to avoid using a project portal. I mean, do you want to go more lightweight or not? I feel like i am misunderstanding something.

you say the oracle machines are actively monitored. Are you the DBA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so are you heavily overlicensed? i can&#8217;t really understand why you want to drive workloads to Oracle and WebLogic, not exactly the cheapest software on the block, when they already have MySQL and, what, Tomcat, skills, given that your original intention was to avoid using a project portal. I mean, do you want to go more lightweight or not? I feel like i am misunderstanding something.</p>
<p>you say the oracle machines are actively monitored. Are you the DBA?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know where Dave is coming from - ensuring compatibility across multiple application servers is a time consuming task. That said, I&#039;m fairly confident that Pebble supports the main servers (http://pebble.sourceforge.net/weblog/installation.html), with the exception of Orion. The problem is retesting everything after each release on multiple versions of multiple application servers. Automated functional tests are one way around this though. If you do give Pebble a go, please feel free to get in touch and let me know your feedback, even if you decide against it. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know where Dave is coming from &#8211; ensuring compatibility across multiple application servers is a time consuming task. That said, I&#8217;m fairly confident that Pebble supports the main servers (<a href="http://pebble.sourceforge.net/weblog/installation.html" rel="nofollow">http://pebble.sourceforge.net/weblog/installation.html</a>), with the exception of Orion. The problem is retesting everything after each release on multiple versions of multiple application servers. Automated functional tests are one way around this though. If you do give Pebble a go, please feel free to get in touch and let me know your feedback, even if you decide against it. <img src='http://www.j2eegeek.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roller is not a commercial product with a revenue stream, so it&#039;s difficult to justify the added expense of supporting lots of application servers and databases. 

As you said, Roller uses Hibernate and should therefore work with any JDBC capable database, but somebody has to write the installation guides and answer the tech support database questions for each platform -- if you&#039;d like to volunteer to do that for Weblogic/Orable, we&#039;d love it!

And, if you do get Roller working on Weblog and Oracle please submut patches to the dev-list so that others don&#039;t have to suffer through the porting process too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roller is not a commercial product with a revenue stream, so it&#8217;s difficult to justify the added expense of supporting lots of application servers and databases. </p>
<p>As you said, Roller uses Hibernate and should therefore work with any JDBC capable database, but somebody has to write the installation guides and answer the tech support database questions for each platform &#8212; if you&#8217;d like to volunteer to do that for Weblogic/Orable, we&#8217;d love it!</p>
<p>And, if you do get Roller working on Weblog and Oracle please submut patches to the dev-list so that others don&#8217;t have to suffer through the porting process too.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know exactly where you are coming from.  I recently blogged about this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.robsanheim.com/2005/07/14/why-i-switched-from-roller-to-wordpress/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; after I gave up on Roller and went to Wordpress.  I would like to be able to stay with a Java based blogging platform, but its just not worth it with platforms like Typo and Wordpress out there.  I think Typo is rising very quickly as a major blogging engine, but it will take some time and a lot of community support for it to really rival Wordpress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know exactly where you are coming from.  I recently blogged about this <a href="http://www.robsanheim.com/2005/07/14/why-i-switched-from-roller-to-wordpress/" rel="nofollow">here</a> after I gave up on Roller and went to WordPress.  I would like to be able to stay with a Java based blogging platform, but its just not worth it with platforms like Typo and WordPress out there.  I think Typo is rising very quickly as a major blogging engine, but it will take some time and a lot of community support for it to really rival WordPress.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikkel Heisterberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikkel Heisterberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go with Pebble - written in Java and very easy to configure and deploy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go with Pebble &#8211; written in Java and very easy to configure and deploy.</p>
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		<title>By: David Czarnecki</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Czarnecki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you do decide to take a look at blojsom, let me know. Also, here&#039;s a pointer to the available plugins, http://wiki.blojsom.com/wiki/display/blojsom/Available+Plugins for your reference. Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you do decide to take a look at blojsom, let me know. Also, here&#8217;s a pointer to the available plugins, <a href="http://wiki.blojsom.com/wiki/display/blojsom/Available+Plugins" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.blojsom.com/wiki/display/blojsom/Available+Plugins</a> for your reference. Take care.</p>
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